todays google alert, from the toronto sun;.
man who botched son's home-circumcision guilty of criminal negligence, top court rules 21. by brigitte pellerin,parliamentary bureaufirst posted: friday, november 16, 2012 11:41 am est.
the supreme court of canada in ottawa on july 21, 2011.
The father, as a Jehovah's Witness, said he believes circumcision is necessary to "make things right with God."
The Jehovah's Witness church does not condone or forbid circumcision.
A case of running ahead or behind the celestial chariot then? Clearly out of step with the Borg
Oz
hi guys over a week ago i started a post about the doantions the society is now asking witnesses as never before .this is the letter that was put on the notice board .i know conditional donation agreement is not a new thing .but this letter was send out of the blue ,no one asked for it and as long as i remember this arrangement it was something you have to ask bethel .notice also how a specific group of people istrargeted ,namely the elderly one with properties ,please let me have your feedback.
the letter is here :.
http://new-jw.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/proof-letter.png .
love it...you die, WE KEEP IT!
greedy uncaring pricks
oz
i showed my wife the new light, it did not go over good.
i started with all the publications and asked her three questions 1 who is the fds 2when did they start 3 when did they get appointed over "all the belongings"?
using the recent publications she said 1 the fds is 144000 2 they started in the 1st centry 3 they were over all belongings in 1919. then i showed her the annual meeting report on the jw.org and went over each point.
You just became 'apostate' mate.
if you want to salvage, i would back pedel like mad and try a different tack or none at all.
It is a real tricky tight rope act we are on sometimes.
Oz
coming from aguest's thread where she showed us the article that describes a "brain drain" that has been occuring for centuries do to "mutations" i can't help but be a little fed up with how much negativity comes from the land of science.
sure, facts are facts and they do not set out to sound good or bad, but instead of identifying the problems of doom, like our brains are devolving, why not focus on the solutions to those problems?
where are the hopes and dreams that our culture so desperately holds onto which actually provides the drive to progress towards them.
I guess you are what many would call a ''glass half empty guy''.
oz
the yahoo7 web-site (aussie version) carries an item with this heading.. find it at:.
its clear (to me, anyway) that big changes are coming, and have been in the pipe-line for at least 5 years.
it was about that long ago, that i noticed a news report saying that the guangdong (provincial) govt.
I have always figured this:
Once upon a time we had our own manufacturing industries. Then we began to allow cheap import goods from overseas, japan at first but most notably china. There was no way we could compete because the wages there were so low. After a while we sent all of our machinery to the scrap yard amd melted them down, sent the steel to china to make crap goods that we bought. The once thriving company i once worked for literally died because of China and the retailers that felt they had to stock imported goods, and in fact, they had to because their competition did.
Then one day, china will say something like "ha! You no can make now, you pay more!"
China is a two edged sword for me. I really try to buy australian made but it is damn near impossible. As a manufacturer, i loath China and actually wont sell or deal with them at all. They are the knock off kings and i will be buggered if i will send them my stuff to copy. I hate having to buy imported crap (and that is what most of it is) because i cant get better. I see all the clothing stores, all the hardware stores, chock a block of chinese and other imports and realize that $5 item i had to buy cost them 50c and some guy got paid 5c to make it.
If china gets dearer maybe, just maybe we will claw back some our manufaturing abilities, but i doubt it. The cost of re-tooling is to large.
Globalization has meant that Chine, tiawan, india etc are the manufaturing entities and the western world are the consumer entities.
I am lucky that what i make is one off custom work a lot of the time and my clientel like to deal with an aussie, that said, damn china is making inroads into my living nonetheless.
No love to china from oz
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/.
there have been rumors about this craft for years, as well as strange sightings.. in addition, over the past week, a tv show that was shelved for 2 years was quietly put on air at 3am.
it claimed to interview a government employee who had detailed pictures of mars - far better than what nasa shows the public- together with testimony that the us has been to mars, using craft put together from technology gained from ufo crashes.
I want one.
But i would rather a time machine...
oz
did you know there are only 6 magic tricks in all the world?
yes, only six.. all illusion, prestidigitation, legerdemain and sleight-of-hand combined merely juggle these six elements.. briefly, they are:.
3. transformation (one thing becomes another thing.).
Cant say I agree Terry, although i can see your point.
As a kid dragged into the whole crap shoot it was all i knew. Yes the tricks were there, but on those so young and those born in...no wishing to be fooled about it.
Fooled no, deceived yes.
Illusion presented as reality and fed to me as reality, became reality.
Now, if i went back, then i would say i wished to be fooled...
Oz
australia's prime minister julia gillard has announced a national royal commission into child abuse within religions and religious charities (not-for-profit sector).
julia gillard announces royal commission will probe child sex abuse.
royal commission to probe child abuse.
Of course, the 'lower' status religions simply cannot applaud the commission.
No doubt the Catholic and Anglicans would prefer to not, but are savvy enough and wealthy enough to weather the storm. They have become institutions of society and will change to stay as such, but the others?
Well they are far smaller but more arrogant, more self righteous and secretive... and have a lot more to lose in a way.
Oz
a major tv production company seeking young adults struggling with their religion.
an emmy-winning television production company is seeking young adults (late teens - mid 20s) who are questioning, struggling with, or rebelling against their religious upbringings.
are you thinking of changing your religion to marry your one true love?
Slowly slowly the curtain tears as the world media slashes at the veil of these religions.
Remember though, TV shows are there as vehicles for advertising and will aim to make controversial (yet informative) shows, particularly of the 'reality' variety, not out of concern or interest for the people but rather for ratings.
So to those who do want to be involved, beware and be careful, as per Barbera's post.
Oz
...(here on jwn) about stephen unthank's case in australia, lately.. i thought that was over and done with.
am i wrong?.
(i'd asked about it when something was hinted at in another thread, but whatever...).
There is probably no way the federal government is not aware of the unthank case.
The commission was initialy planned with the Catholic Church in Aust as its focus but so much information has come out about other 'religions' such as the Exclusive Bretheran, Scientologists and the Jehovahs Witnesses that they cannot keep it so narrow. Remember, Mr Unthank appeared before some other parlimentary enquiry earlier this year and the Prime Ministers office was also CC'd by Unthank on his case at the time as I recall.
It will be grand if they can abolish the whole 'clergy/laity' privlege and force these outdated institutions to become step into the real world.
I hope Mr Unthank has a lot to say in this development.
Oz
